Sunday, July 1, 2012

Question regarding videos

There are interesting questions that pop up during the last preparations for the ADOM crowd funding campaign and hopefully there's someone knowledgable about the issue out there:

During the pitch video for the crowd funding campaign I plan to have a computer monitor on the sidelines of the video playing a video. I found some cool videos from the ADOM community I could see there but the originator of my most preferred video doesn't seem to be reachable right now. The video is available on various video platforms like myvideo, youtube, etc.

Now the question: Is it permissible to have that video running at the sideline (e.g. it never will be full screen, during the video I will mention it as an example of a fan video, etc.) or is that a problem?

Alternatively if there's someone out there who has posted some great video illustrating ADOM gameplay and wouldn't mind me using it as background filler for the campaign pitch video, please post a link here and a small statement saying that I may use it.

Thanks - any help is appreciated!

10 comments:

  1. Which video are you talking about? I can tell you for sure that Silfir's lengthy "Let's Play" of ADOM is something he certainly wouldn't object to you using. His channel:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/Silfir

    Probably okay to use Soirana's too:
    http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDB573862D9427191

    gut has some recording from different forum competitions we've had:
    http://www.viddler.com/profile/gut

    And so have I (which you're obviously free to use):
    http://www.viddler.com/profile/darrenjohngrey

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    1. Also, in terms of legality, I believe such "referencing" of works is allowed. Still, preferable to get permission.

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  2. Right now I prefer this one because it's timing fits quite well to our script (I think - I am lousy in front of a camera :-^):

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6458000638798026851

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    1. Oh, and we are showing it without sound as I'm not sure about that part. So you basically just can see the middle five minutes of the video.

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    2. Bleh, silly effects and relatively uninteresting locations in the game. Hardly shows the best of ADOM in my opinion. Would be nice to show a touch of the temples, the pyramid, the graveyards, a greater vault, the Chaos Plane, as well as large magic effects etc.

      Y'know I'm sure some in the community might be willing to stitch together some appropriate video for you. I know you're time-constrained but it's worth asking.

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    3. I'd hope the video would be as spoiler-free as possible. I've been playing ADOM unspoiled for quite a while now and I've yet to find some of the things you've mentioned (greater vault, Chaos plane, large magical effects). I don't mind seeing someone enter the bug temple or the pyramid as these are clearly visible from the map and relatively easy to access, but please don't show how to gain access to a greater vault. Showing footage of a greater vault is probably fine though, just not how to get to it.

      On a related note, I'm wondering how effective the manual and in-game tidbits of knowledge are at enabling the player to solve in-game mysteries. Are some things just too obscure to be solved without spoilers or are the ambiguous in-game hints deemed sufficient?

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  3. According to logic, you should be able to do it. But according to the law, no idea... IP laws tend to be quite draconian :/

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  4. I would wonder which laws you would have to follow as well considering this is an international campaign. If you want to play it safe I would definitely just get someone's permission. Or hold a contest.

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  5. Blogs and major news networks post and link to Youtube videos all the time with just a small mention of the source. I am sure you would not be hurting anything by doing the same. Especially since you wrote the code that generated the content.

    Additionally, the ascii nature of ADOM is such that you could grab videos off the internet, cut certain pieces out, and put them together into a montage that is not distinguishable from games you recorded yourself.

    By the way, you have my pledge. Thank you for years of entertainment.

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  6. You'll see soon: The video is really just a stamp-sized background thing. Today I have learned that videos are not my greatest strength. Nonetheless I intend to keep going. We'll see.

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